2025 Planning Application
Farnborough Noise Group
Tuesday 2nd December 2025
It is not necessary to pick out every point from Farnborough Airport's planning application. It is only required to show that the harm outweighs the alleged benefits. The "Needs Case" or business case is obviously very important and we will be reviewing this in detail. We can show that the harm caused by the proposal is significant. It impacts the enjoyment of our homes, our health, our property values and the learning of our children in schools. At a high level the key messages are:​
Protect our health and homes
Airport expansion would increase noise and air pollution, harming residents’ well-being, children’s learning and local quality of life as well as impacting property prices.
Stop expansion for the ultra-wealthy
The airport serves a tiny elite while creating huge emissions and disruption for local communities. Its growth benefits the few and burdens the many.
Stand up for climate and community justice
Expanding private jet flights undermines Net Zero commitments and local efforts to reduce emissions and RBC’s Local Plan.
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As we go through the planning application documents, we will list the points we find and update this spreadsheet. What is important to you will depend on where you live and how you are impacted. Please submit a response to RBC's portal and share your views. And please share this on your social media so that other people are aware. If the application is approved, it cannot be undone when you realise that you can't enjoy sitting in your garden or, when you come to sell your house, you have to declare the increasing number of flights in you Sellers Pack.​​​​
Farnborough Noise Group
Farnborough Airport has submitted a planning application to increase the number of weekend flights and increase the number of "large" aircraft. The application is on the RBC website and general information is here. The process started with an Environmental Impact Assessment being submitted to RBC that was subsequently approved by RBC. Leigh Day (solicitors) wrote to RBC advising them that the scope of the EIA was open to challenge.
Despite this, Farnborough Airport submitted a planning application that had a tiny scope. Most areas significantly impacted by the planning application were not included. The map shows the area included in the application vs the area actually impacted by an increase in weekend flights. ​
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The planning application submitted by the airport consists of more than 2,500 pages in 67 documents - Obviously no individual, group or local authority will have the resources to go through this information. RBC agreed that the public must comment by 30th December, despite the Christmas period. Nor does RBC intend to carry out proper public consolation. ​We have written to councils and MPs providing advice and asking them to challenge RBC in the way they are conducting the planning application.
As RBC is not planning to conduct proper public consultation, we will run events ourselves. We will arrange public Zoom meetings on 11th December (daytime and evening). Details will be posted on the website and Facebook.
Tuesday 2nd December 2025
Farnborough Noise Group
Wednesday 30th April 2025
The Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has now released the delayed review of the impact of changes to airspace that were introduced in 2020 (the Post Implementation Review or PIR). The link to the CAA’s document is here.
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FNG has reviewed the document and it is here.
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The CAA allowed Farnborough Airport (FAL) to set the objectives and the method of measurement and it has concluded that it has achieved its objectives. Generally, it has presented the information that supports its position while ignoring information that challenges it. Appendix 1 in the evaluation documents provides such an example.
The comment made by a number of people who have read the PIR is effectively “We knew the change in airspace and flightpaths would really annoy some people, especially those in rural areas. That’s what has happened so the change in airspace has been a success and achieved the intended outcome”.
The “The Civil Aviation Authority (Air Navigation) Directions 2001 Appendix III,
Section 9b” states: Where such changes might have a significant effect on the level or distribution of noise and emissions in the vicinity of a civil aerodrome, ensure that the manager of the aerodrome, users of it, any local authority in the neighbourhood of the aerodrome and any other organisation representing the interests of persons in the locality, have been consulted (which might be undertaken through the consultative committee for the aerodrome where one exists);
There has been no substantive engagement or consultation between the CAA, FAL or the airport consultative committee (FACC) and Farnborough Noise Group (FNG) or the general public regarding the change in airspace. Only a 10-minute presentation by FNG at one FACC meeting in four years was allowed. The FACC, directed by FAL, refused to discuss the scope of the PIR when it was set in 2021/22. This contrasts markedly with airport users and aviation organisations who have had extensive dialogue with the CAA and the airport over a two-year period.
The PIR has sought to dissect and isolate the impacts of the airspace change rather than recognising that it is part of the significant combined impact of aviation experienced by the public. As an example, the CAA’s documented strategy is to move as many flights and flightpaths as possible over quiet rural areas and National Landscapes. The PIR states (Page 28 Sect 3.90) “Assessment of the impacts on tranquillity, including the Surrey Hills AONB and South Downs National Park, is covered in the Environmental Assessment above. The CAA concluded that there is no net increase in flights over the AONB and National Park”. Firstly, the statement is not true (there is a net increase in flights over AONB and National Parks) and secondly, the impact of noise in rural areas that are supposed to be protected for the wellbeing of the population is important and should not be turned into “noise sewers” for the benefit of a tiny number of ultra-wealthy people flying by private jet. See Appendix 2 for relevant points on noise measurement.
Without a judicial review, there is no way to challenge this report and the CAA and Farnborough Airport are already well down the track of more changes to flightpaths and airspace that will supersede the current situation. This is the government’s Airspace Modernisation Strategy that will see a doubling of flightpaths for all airports (to support the airport expansions locally at Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stanstead, City, Southampton as well as Farnborough). The design is to specifically put flightpaths over rural areas so, rather than a doubling, expect a ten-fold increase in flights for many people as they are concentrated in specific areas. The increase of an average 5 flights a day to more than 50 a day in many areas south of Farnborough resulting from Farnborough’s airspace change is a foretaste of what is being planned.
There has been no consideration in the PIR regarding the impact of pollution (noise and emissions), nor the impact on house prices when people find their largest investment is now worth less as a flightpath has been put over it.
Additional data and detailed evaluation of the PIR is needed. The CAA/FAL will likely need to provide more information to complete this and FNG is working on a list of additional data requirements. FNG will circulate a second more comprehensive review document once the data has been provided and evaluated.
Farnborough Noise Group
Wednesday 16th August 2023
Wednesday 16th was a big day for the Farnborough Noise Group! The website launched and special thanks must go to Myra and Alex Johnson for building it. The website will replace the monthly newsletters and it will allow more people in the group to contribute as and when things happen. There will be a few things to tidy up and additional sections added over the coming weeks.
If there are questions you want answers to or if you have topics you want to be covered, just email farnboroughnoise@gmail.com.
Farnborough Noise Group
Friday 17th January 2025
The Guildford meeting took place yesterday. Many thanks to those who came along and particularly to the councillors representing the interests of their constituents. The meeting covered:
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Why aviation is a particular problem
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The solutions offered by the industry
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The Airspace Modernisation Strategy
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Farnborough Airport – What’s happening?
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Farnborough Noise Group
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What you can do about the situation?
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The presentation is here and the supporting notes are here. The key points of the meeting were:​
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Aviation is growing fast with no realistic plans to curb emissions
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The solutions proposed by the industry (SAF, electric, hydrogen) aren't viable
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The process to redesign UK airspace is flawed and will result in millions of people suffering more noise
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The public have not been consulted on the proposals despite being well advanced
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The Farnborough expansion has been delayed until at least the summer
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House prices in the area will be negatively impacted by new flightpaths
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Information being put out by the airport is misleading
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Flightpaths, heights and conditions set in the planning consent are not being followed
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Some time was spent looking at the airport's financials. The business case submitted for the planning application is misleading because it includes benefits but no costs (health impact, property price impact, harm to protected areas & species) and includes the Aviator Hotel that accounts for half the headcount. In reality, the airport's main business is fuel sales. The airport hasn't made a profit but has paid out huge dividends (£55m dividend/interest payment last accounting year with £550m debt - a similar game was played with Thames Water owned by Macquarie). A financial analysis is here.
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We recorded the meeting and will look at uploading it when we have reviewed it.
Farnborough Noise Group
Monday 6th January 2025
2025 will be an important year for this area with decisions on Farnborough and Gatwick Airport’s proposed expansion and the government’s plans to introduce new flightpaths over us. The impact of these decisions will be felt by future generations in terms of pollution and climate change but more immediately in house prices and noise disturbance.
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Farnborough Airport’s plans to double the number of flights is due for decision by Rushmoor Borough Council early in the New Year.
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Gatwick Airport’s plans to start operating a second runway are in consultation.
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The government’s plans to double the number of UK commercial flights by 2030, introduce much more dense flightpaths over the south east by 2027, as well as more night flights and holding stacks at 3,000ft over places like Petersfield and Farnham is at the final stages of consultation.
While the dates for Farnborough Airport's expansion planning application consultation have not yet been announced, we thought we'd arrange a meeting at Zero Carbon Guildford to discuss the potential impact of all these changes. The date is 7.30pm on Thursday 16th January. Free tickets are available here.
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The media flyer for the event is here.
Farnborough Noise Group
Sunday 10th November 2024
From a communications perspective, things have been fairly quiet over the past few months because the airport's planning application has been delayed - awaiting more information as identified from the challenges made in 2023. There is now an update on the timing of the next stage, though it is not clear if there will be a full public consultation like last time. There certainly should be for the application to have any credibility. It also seems that RBC and RBC alone will determine the application but that is unacceptable. Neighbouring councils (and their constituents) should have a say as they do not gain financially but experience as much harm. Please raise this with your councils and MP. There is considerable concern regarding the misleading business case FAL submitted and the fact they paid the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) to produce a report which supports their position and used their media machine to spread the misleading information across the aviation sector and beyond. Tactics often used by the oil & gas industry.
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There is a FACC meeting on Thursday 21st November but these events are so staged and the agenda so restricted that there is little point in them. If you want the truth and the evidence to back it up, you will need to read the FNG reports rather than the FACC's. There is a new chair of the FACC. One would have expected them to reach out to Farnborough Noise Group. The fact this hasn't happened says a lot about the role and objectives of the FACC. As usual, papers haven't been provided to the public in advance so relevant questions can't be submitted.
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In other news, and this is significant..... the airport has repeatedly refused to provide information on how many of its flights are "business" flights. This is important because it only has a licence for business flights and it is business flight that are used in the business case to justify the harm caused by the airport. We have known for a long time that most flights are for leisure and there was an article in the BBC this week about it. But now the CAA is including Farnborough Airport in its data and only 13% of its FAL's are classified as "business". Nearly a third are positioning flights and empty.
And finally, you may have seen in the budget that Air Passenger Duty on private jets has been increased. But the reality is that it will, on average, only increase the cost of a private jet flight by about 2%. What is needed is fuel duty. Why should people pay tax on their heating fuel or carers pay tax on petrol in their cars to do their job when the private jet class don't pay duty on fuel?
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Oh, and one more thing. Can FAL explain why a
British Airways flight was operating from the airport
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And why these two flights flew the flightpaths they did when the change in airspace in 2020 was supposed to reduce emissions caused by inefficient flightpaths and reduce the number of people disturbed by aircraft noise.
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Farnborough Noise Group
Tuesday 23rd July 2024
Sending out an update of the June FACC meeting has been delayed because we waited for the Churt Noise report that the airport commissioned in August 2023. Simon Geere requested it was “held back for a very short time” at the FACC meeting. It still hasn’t been provided. So here is the update from the meeting.
Farnborough Noise Group has been trying to engage in meaningful dialogue with the airport, the FACC, RBC, the CAA and the DfT for four years. Nothing has changed. Here is an example of one of the most frequently raised issues by the public. The Bombardier Challenger 300 series it the most common aircraft operating from the airport. It is very noisy and emits a piercing howl. It is renowned the world over and has been for years. Below are some YouTube recordings of it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqQmsfsahM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03nlhFHy688&t=3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLwxTv_2eYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SVeUzuc6aM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdrMzJFq4xo&t=10s
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C5yMydQAJ0Y
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kYHP8rh4QHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVKDPlkKN0&t=54s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pAYb6ellUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=03nlhFHy688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uabTH7706f0&t=29s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyOKNaXkZQ&t=32s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8cQSM9DYYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1JaxSg-_p0&t=25s
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Bickerdike Allen (the airport's noise consultancy) recorded the Bombardier Challenger 350 to be 60% louder than the next noisiest aircraft. Yet Simon Geere, CEO of Farnborough Airport, said in previous FACC meetings they would “look at the issue and see what can be done” then at this FACC meeting he said the airport would not restrict any aircraft from operating. He said that all aircraft operating at the airport are Chapter 4 compliant. We all know from dieselgate that it is easy to “manipulate” measurements.
Trying to engage in meaningful dialogue and to find solutions to the specific issues resulting from Farnborough Airport’s operations it not effective. A more effective way is to support the national and international organisations that are challenging the use of private jets through the courts and using legislation such as the recent decision by the UK Supreme Court. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxwwzmn12g9o. Inevitably these are “blunt instruments” aimed at banning all private jets. It is inevitable this will happen as private jets aren’t compatible with meeting national and global emissions reductions by to 2030 or achieving Net Zero which is legally binding by 2050. A sensible approach would have been to stop (or at least reduce) the leisure and pet flights from Farnborough Airport if the airport’s claim that flights generate significant net income to the UK were true. But that isn’t going to happen with Macquarie as the owner. The objective is to keep the money making machine going as long as possible, as we have seen from the water businesses it owns or abandoned like Thames Water. As usual, the public suffers and ends up bearing the cost.
Farnborough Noise Group
Wednesday 29th May 2024
A few things have happened in the past couple of months........
First, the local elections have resulted in Labour taking control of Rushmoor Borough Council. The general view is that it is a positive change as there is likely to be less nepotism and the policies and procedures that the airport should comply with may be better enforced. Hopefully there is a balance so that the financial gains of corporate businesses are not prioritised over local issues and the health of people near the airport.
Second, the General Election. A change in government will potentially have far reaching consequences. For example, how can the country be following a path to net zero emissions while at the same time planning to double the number of flights (through the national Airspace Modernisation Strategy) and what is going to happen to the planning application to double the number of Farnborough flights when private jets are 20 - 40 times more polluting than equivalent commercial flights? FNG has been in contact with the candidates standing for election and provided a fact sheet as well as arranging Zoom calls with each party to answer their question about Farnborough Airport and aviation expansion.
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Third, there has been another consultation around the Airspace Modernisation Strategy and the options for changes to Farnborough's airspace. As usual, the evaluation only considers aircraft using Farnborough Airport and up to 7,000ft but that is only half the aircraft noise and emissions problem in the area. General Aviation (light aircraft, helicopters, etc) and Heathrow/Gatwick aircraft are not included. The airport has tried to discuss what are quite technical issues in public zoom calls, which just isn't feasible. We have asked for a face-to-face meeting to go through the concerns we have. There is more information here.
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And there has been a lot in the press about the decline in business aviation, and the unicorn solution of Sustainable Aviation Fuel being touted by the aviation industry. It is interesting that the aviation sector assumes there is unlimited supply of green electricity while Red Funnel Ferries is ordering three new diesel ferries because there isn't enough supply of green energy in the South East to run electric ships.
Farnborough Noise Group
Today FNG was at the Farnham Sustainability Festival. It was busy, without a break for five hours (picture from the setup at 11.00am before it got busy). People are clearly concerned about the situation. You'd expect people to be environmentally aware at a Sustainability Festival but the awareness was much deeper - more concerned. A number of councillors and MP candidates came for a chat so this is rapidly becoming an election issue.
Sunday 19th May 2024
Last week Farnborough International hosted the Sustainable Skies World Summit. The first question asked to the audience was “Are we making progress at the rate needed to make net zero by 2050”. The response was 91% “No”. It seems the aviation industry is concerned as well. The meeting didn't last long for Colin Shearn of FNG as Anthony Earley, Marketing Director of Farnborough International ejected him on the morning of the second day saying "it's nothing personal, we just don't want people like you here". Blatant discrimination when he hadn't done anything. The claim was that he had taken a picture (as everyone was doing, it's a trade event!). A complaint has been submitted to the businesses legal director.
Farnborough Noise Group
Sunday 31st March 2024
The FACC meeting took place on 21st February. As usual, the issues that need to be discussed and are important to the public were avoided. There was a demonstration by environmental groups, FNG and members of the public outside but very few people in the meeting or online. That's what happens when public access is blocked, questions aren't answered and information isn't provided. No doubt the airport would rather have it this way so it can carry on making money at our expense. A year ago, FNG concluded it wasn't worth engaging with the FACC but it tried again because of the airport's expansion plans. We will be looking at new and more effective ways of representing the public to the airport. A report on the meeting is here. The referenced reply from the FACC chair is here.
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We also have a roundup of local aviation news and things that relate to Farnborough Airport here.
Farnborough Noise Group
Sunday 25th February 2024
Many of you will know that Colin Shearn, who was previously chair of FNG, was in court a couple of weeks ago. Surrey Police started an Anti Social Behaviour Injunction against him in August 2023. The injunction prohibited him from “causing harassment, alarm or distress, nuisance or annoyance to anyone in England and Wales”, and if he did, he could be immediately arrested. Clearly, he had no choice other than to challenge such an extreme injunction.
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Included in Surrey Police's submission was a complaint that stated that he had been “Conducting an aggressive and relentless campaign against Farnborough Airport, the FACC and individuals connected with these organisations over the past 2-3 years”. It went on to say that "Colin Shearn has been bombarding Farnborough Airport Company, the FACC, Rushmoor Borough Council, the Civil Aviation Authority, the National Air Traffic Service and the Department for Transport with endless questions about air traffic which he alleges causes disturbance to him and the people he claims to represent.” And that “Mr Shearn is described as adopting a belligerent and aggressive style, distorting or misrepresenting a point of view to suit his agenda”.
As a result of this, Colin stepped down as chair of Farnborough Noise Group. The situation was reported in the national press and international press. This part of the injunction was dropped by Surrey Police two weeks before the trial but the damage had already been done. Colin could not comment while there were legal proceedings but as he has now been issued with a two-year Anti Social Behaviour Injunction, he can. The false statement was made by Philip Riley, chair of the FACC. It did not have the support of FACC members. As Philip Riley was a solicitor, he will be well aware of the implications of making false allegations. The public announcement by Colin is here. We call on Philip Riley to consider his position in the FACC.
Farnborough Noise Group
Monday 29th January 2024
Well! That was quite an event! A big turnout to the demonstration on Saturday and Greta Thunberg was there as well. I guess that as a campaigner who is often surrounded by crowds it would have been useful to be a bit taller...... But her presence on the day made everyone else feel a lot bigger. Extinction Rebellion did a great job organising the event (Police liaison, traffic control, first-aid, etc). It really needs a group with experience to organise events like this. There was a lot of coverage on national and international media. Farnborough Noise Group was rather drowned out by XR but that doesn't matter, it is getting the message across that counts.
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Thanks everyone for joining. Many people hadn't been to a demo before and I hope it has encouraged you to join another one in the future. If you have any pics or video you'd like to share, please send them in. Flight Free has done a great montage to Chris Packham's recorded speech.
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Needless to say, the DfT, CAA and Farnborough airport didn't respond to the invitation and come to talk with us at the demonstration so we will be following up with them.
Farnborough Noise Group
Tuesday 9th January 2024
A lot has been happening in the last few weeks. There were articles published in Open Democracy, The Guardian and Private Eye regarding Colin Shearn's Anti Social Behaviour Injunction and several legal firms and KCs have been in touch commenting on similarities with the Post Office Horizon scandal. It is unacceptable that public organisations, using taxpayer's money, take action against individuals who are legally challenging organisations that are failing in their responsibilities.
Farnborough Airport is not operating in accordance with it licence (business flights only) so FNG submitted a formal complaint to Simon Geere (FAC CEO), Leo Docherty (MP Farnborough), the council leaders for Hampshire and Rushmoor. As an example, on 29th December (not really a day that business people will be flying), there were 29 departures and 13 of these were to skiing locations in the Alpes. Paul Shackley (RBC) replied, denying any breach of planning permission. The issue here is that when the body that is supposed to apply enforcement can't even recognise the issue when it is raised to them, what hope is there? Farnborough is designated for Business Aviation because the revenue generated by business was the justification for the recognised harm caused by flights in the Secretary of State's approval. Flying pets to Dubai and wealthy individuals for skiing isn't business use and doesn't provide the benefit to justify the harm. Paul Shackley said the complaint had been refused by the Local Government Ombudsman - the fact is that the LGO wouldn't review it (not enough resources and not a material issue). So the LGO thinks an airport operating outside its licence isn't a material issue..... you despair!
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FNG has reviewed the consultation documentation provided by Farnborough Airport as part of the Airspace Modernisation Strategy (AMS or FASI-S). It is alarming that things like a holding stack above Farnham and new flightpaths into Gatwick (day and night flights) at 6,000ft above the ground but the public have not been consulted. Most people have no idea of the scale of impact this might have on them and their property prices.
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Given that we have exhausted every avenue to discuss issues with all the relevant bodies, and nobody will have a sensible discussion, let alone take any action, a significant demonstration has been arranged at Farnborough Airport on 27th January. Wrap up warm, bring your friends and family (Hampshire Police have been involved in the planning) and let these organisations know how you feel. There will be people and groups from all over the country as well as talks and various entertainment.
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Finally, when parliamentary committees start to challenge the sense of Government's New Zero strategy for aviation, you've got to see that things are wrong and change is needed. The Americans have recognised that Sustainable Aviation Fuel isn't sustainable. and there were hopes that all the sh*t from Macquarie's other business (Southern Water) could be turned into SAF, but unfortunately all the sh*t in the UK would only produce 5% of aircraft fuel needed!
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Farnborough Noise Group
Wednesday 19th December 2023
There was a meeting last week hosted by FAL as part of the CAA's Airspace Modernisation Strategy / FASI-S. This is the change in airspace to double the number of flights that is combined with Heathrow and Gatwick. The programme is at the "design" stage. The public have not yet been consulted. FNG is concerned for many reasons:
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The airport has repeatedly avoided having discussions with FNG because once they understand what the issues are, they would have to try and mitigate them, which they don't want to do..... better not to find out.
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Information they are presenting is flawed, and they know it is flawed. For example, it is measuring aircraft noise disturbance using a measure known as LAeq16 (average noise measured over 16 hours). But it is only considering Farnborough aircraft noise. I don't know about you but I can't select out aircraft noise when they are flying over depending on which airport they are going to. They are also measuring noise over 16 hours but Farnborough Airport doesn't operate for 16 hours so the averages under-represent the noise people hear.
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The same design principle is being used as the last airspace change, a "reduction in people overflown" which means the flightpaths would be put over quiet rural areas and national parks that are supposed to be protected under Air Navigation Guidance 2017.
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FNG has repeatedly asked for meetings with FAL to discuss these points and we will keep asking.
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A few more articles in the press:
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Advertising Standards Authority calls our airlines over sustainability claims
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Demand for private jets tails off (so Farnborough doesn't need to expand!)
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Fewer executives are taking the corporate jet
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Farnborough Noise Group
Monday 27th November 2023
A quick update on a few things that you might be interested in as we count down to COP28.…..
GAGNE (the Gatwick Airport group) is running some public talks.
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Talk One - Time to rethink airport expansion plans with AEF
Losing Altitude: The Economics of Air Transport in Great Britain with NEF
Thursday 30th November at 7-8pm Book here
Talk Two - Climate Change: how we got here and where we might be going
Thursday 7th December at 7pm
Guest speaker Tony Whitbread Book here
Talk Three - Let’s talk UK’s airports are big enough!
Friday 8th December 7pm –
Guest speaker Steve Clark of Bristol Airport Action Network and newly formed No Airport Expansion campaign in conversation with Lisa Morris Book here
Talk Four - The increasing importance of protecting our best landscape and heritage in the 21st Century/our ever-busy world!
Monday 11th December 7pm
With Duncan Leslie Managing Director at Hever Castle, Kent Book here
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In case you missed it, here is the FNG video listing the operational issues with the airport.
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And articles in the national and international press.....
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Greenwashing before COP28 - Virgin Atlantic's flight using SAF
Farnborough Noise Group
Friday 10th November 2023
The latest FACC meeting took place on Thursday. If you’ve been to any of these meetings in the past, they are extremely frustrating events that are effectively used as an opportunity for the airport to “market” itself rather than for the concerns of the public to be raised and for the FACC to challenge the airport or for solutions to be found. There will be various actions taking place following the meeting because things can’t go on like this any longer.
The FACC needs a chair that is independent and who performs the role required of a chair in an airport consultative committee. A completely new approach is needed by the FACC. It is especially important now because there are two major events happening at the same time, one is the airport’s expansion planning application that we are told will be “live” next week. The other is another Farnborough Airspace Change Proposal (part of FASI-S/AMS that will be run under CAP 1616 procedures) and this starts on 4th December.
The documents for the meeting should have been on the FACC website BEFORE the meeting so that people could ask questions about the content but they still aren’t online, TWO WEEKS AFTER THE MEETING. It sort of sums up the situation….. The FACC restricts people submitting questions and attending the meeting in person, then doesn’t have the questions to hand that were sent a week in advance (as per the FACC’s procedures) and were expected to be answered. They weren’t answered, but everyone had a laugh when the chair reprimanded a member of the public for asking a question saying questions were only allowed in the public question section – without realising it WAS the public question section! Keep an eye on the website for when they are made available.
FNG has spent years trying to get the public’s issues discussed and at the June FACC meeting, it was agreed that FNG would be given the opportunity to present in November. We weren’t on the agenda for the November meeting so had to challenge to get onto it. We were given 10 – 15 minutes which isn’t enough to cover what needs to be covered. So we recorded a video of the sort of presentation we would have liked to have given. Instead, we took the opportunity at the meeting to explain what is not working, why the public are so angry and what needs to be done now, so that the two consultation procedures have a chance of being carried out properly.
More information to follow…..
Farnborough Noise Group
Thursday 2nd November 2023
Just a reminder, there is a friendly/family demonstration at the airport on Saturday 4th November (10.00am - Noon. All welcome - bring waterproof clothing! It's at Farnborough Airport northern gate adjacent to the Sir Frank Whittle Memorial roundabout. Parking is free in the Ively Road car park).
And there is a gathering at the FACC meeting that is on Thursday 9th November (1.15pm - 2.00pm. Fleet Council offices, The Harlington, GU51 4BY). If you want to attend the meeting in person, you need to register at least five days in advance with admin@facc.org.uk.